General speculations about Snape

Here's some general Speculations about Severus Snape.

• Severus Snape is not, in fact, a traitor to Dumbledore and the Order of the Phoenix.

My first observation is that when Severus is answering all of Bellatrix's rude questions, he very much avoids answering why he hasn't killed Harry. Further more, Severus dances around any real, solid answer in the long response he finally gives. (HBP pg. 30-31)

Secondly, Severus acts very much as though he knows "about the plan" yet never manages to say a single piece of information about it before Narcissa or Bellatrix. Everything he knows about the plan is because they told him. At this point, it appears to me that he is gathering information for Dumbledore. It is never mentioned to Harry by Dumbledore, but that is small matter in this situation. Severus eventually would have figured that the actual target was Dumbledore and told him. Dumbledore would have kept it to himself so as not to worry Harry. Obviously, if Harry knew, he would not be able to restrain himself from attacking Draco or something. (HBP pg. 32-33)

Next point. Severus is extremely reluctant to give the Unbreakable Vow, and only does so in the end because Bellatrix refuses to believe he is on their side (and I agree with her).

If you are there to protect him...Severus, will you swear it? Will you make the Unbreakable Vow?” “The Unbreakable Vow?” Snape's expression was blank, unreadable. Bellatrix, however, let out a cackle of triumphant laughter. “Aren't you listening, Narcissa? Oh, he'll </i>try<i>, I'm sure...The usual empty words, the usual slithering out of action...oh, on the Dark Lord's orders, of course!” Snape did not look at Bellatrix. His black eyes were fixed upon Narcissa's tear-filled blue ones as she continued to clutch his hand. “Certainly, Narcissa, I shall make the Unbreakable Vow,” he said quietly. (HBP pg. 35-36)

As you see, it is Bellatrix's goading words that bring him to the conclusion that he can do nothing else. We know that Severus is very intelligent magically and is a very successful Occlumens, but he is a weak person. If one notices, Severus follows whoever he thinks can give him the most protection. At first, he is angry with James and the other Marauders and is interested in the Dark Arts. This makes it appear to him that Voldemort is the wizard to follow. However, with Dumbledore fighting against his current cause, Severus must already have had extreme notions as to power of Dumbledore (most students get the impression that their instructors are more than they are, but in Dumbledore's case, I think it's hard to break the bounds of his power) and so, Severus realised that Dumbledore would offer more protection to him. It must have been an utter relief to him when Voldemort told him to become a double agent. Or it may have been that Severus "felt he wasn't doing all he could" and thought if he could get into the confidence of Dumbledore, that he would be more useful, hence the assignment. From that point, I believe Severus' story goes much as he states on pages 26 and 27 of HBP.

The next point I have to make is that when asked if Severus would carry out Draco's deed if it seems he would fail, Severus paused and it seems to me that he was considering whether or not to make the vow. However, he obviously did, and I believe it is for the same reason he agreed to make the vow in the first place.

Now, to the part where I cried. The scene in which Severus kills Dumbledore. Many believe that in that scene, Dumbledore begs for his life. I, however, do not believe this. On page 297 of SS, Dumbledore says, “After all, to the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.” If there is someone who can prove Dumbledore to have had an unorganized mind, I ask that they present the evidence to me (teh_dinah_saur@yahoo.com). I do not find it possible. If Dumbledore was the one to have told this to Harry, he must believe it. It is not in Dumbledore’s character to state such things unless he believes them to be true. Note how he frequently provided disclaimers for Harry whenever the information he told him about Voldemort was speculation. Now, to carry on. Dumbledore, in my opinion, was not begging for his life. I find it rather possible that he was, in fact, asking Severus to fulfill any duties that Dumbledore had asked of him previously. I believe that, if my theory is true, that Severus told Dumbledore about the plan to kill him already. I also believe that Severus informed him about the Unbreakable Vow he made. Dumbledore, being wise, would have understood exactly why Severus had done what he did. Knowing all the possibilities, I believe Dumbledore told, maybe even commanded, Severus to follow through with his vow if he had to.

Snape gazed for a moment at Dumbledore, and there was revulsion and hatred etched in the harsh lines of his face. “Severus … please … (HBP pg. 595)

Severus paused. He did not kill Dumbledore directly. We know Snape is a talented Occlumens and can perform Legilimency. We also know that Dumbledore is a practiced Legilimens. I find it not only possible, but likely that they were communicating in some way. I believe that Dumbledore was doing two things. He was reminding Severus of the promise he made to follow through with the Unbreakable Vow and/or confirming that Harry was up there with them, and Severus was to make sure he got away. Either one of these could be the reason the was a look of “revulsion and hatred” in Severus’ face.

Another possibility for the reason behind Severus killing Dumbledore lies in his being weak, as I described before. We know for a fact that if Severus were to break his vow, he would have died.

”What happens if you break it, then?” “You die,” said Ron simply. (HBP pg. 325-326)

The look of “revulsion and hatred” could have been for himself, not willing to sacrifice himself to save Dumbledore.

Now for my final point. When Harry is chasing Severus in chapter 28, Severus does not fight back in any way. He blocks curses, but that’s all. In fact, the way he talks to Harry makes it seem as though he is trying to teach him something. He is confirming the importance of nonverbal spells. I don’t believe that the reason he does not attack Harry is that Voldemort wants to finish him off. Severus would still be able to inflict some manner of pain. He even stopped a Death Eater from using the Cruciatus Curse on Harry. The only time Severus lashed out at Harry was when his pride was hurt by being called a coward. What I concentrate on is that Severus, no matter his dislike and hatred for Harry, seems to be <i>teaching</i> Harry in this final scene with him. Teaching him what not to do when he must fact Death Eaters and eventually the Dark Lord in the future. I think it must have been his last attempt at doing what Dumbledore wanted him to do. I believe he was trying to help Harry in one final way because he had had so much respect for Dumbledore.

In conclusion, because of all the aforementioned aspects of the story, I believe Severus Snape to be no traitor to the Order of the Phoenix, but a continuing member, put more in harms way than any other member.. ( Dinah O'Hearn )



• I think Snape might be a scapegoat, I doubt wether Harry nor anybody of the "good guys", including Dumbledore, would be willing or able to perform Avada Kedavra. To take this to the next level, Dumbledore might be aware that Snape would be one of the few people who could actually summon the will power and overcome the moral scruples to perform this curse, on Voldemort, and to accept the damage it takes on ones soul. It takes conviction to make a working Avada, in case of Voldemort even a lot conviction and powerfull spell. Besides this we know now Snape is experienced in Dark Arts, experimental with spells and very able to perform Dark Magic, so maybe Dumbledore would sacrifice everything, even his own life, to keep Snape alive for his ultimate destiny, killing Voldemort. Besides this, though Harry is resourcefull and sometimes unpredictably apt, he does not seem to have extraordinary more magical ability then others, Hermione for instance most times seems to have much more natural magical abilities and skills.
( webmaster HPF)


• Snape is evil people lets face it, yes he has had plenty opportunities to hurt and kill plenty of important people through out the years. Snape has realized that when the dark lord took harrys blood to regain a body that he defeated that strong ancient magic that protected harry so many years ago. He believes that there is nothing stopping the dark lord from killing harry. I wish to think that dumbledroe is not dead just as I would like to think sirius is not dead(excuse my spelling i don't have a book in front of me)but the same way harry will be able to talk to sirius through that little mirror he gave harry (book 5) he will also be able to talk at least communicate to dumbledore I think the picture behind his desk. I believe that harry will have the pleasure of killing or at least seriosly hurting snape in book 7.
( chaz )


• Dumbledore on Snape: on chapter 25 the seer overheard, there is a heated conversation between harry and professor dumbledore and here it goes [sorry for some major spoilage ~_~]
Harry: He hated my dad like he hated Sirius! Haven't you noticed, Professor, how the people Snape hates tend to end up dead?
Dumbledore: You have no idea of the remorse Professor Snape felt when he realized how Lord Voldemort had interpreted the prophecy, Harry. I believe it to be the greatest regret of his life and the reason he returned -
Harry: But he's a very good Occlumens isn't he sir? And isn't it Voldemrt convinced that Snape's on his side, even now? Professor... how can you be sure Snape's on our side? after this conversation there is something narrated and it goes:
"Dumbledore did not speak for a moment; he looked as though he was trying to make up his mind about something"
and then:
Dumbledore: I am sure. I trust Severus Snape completely.
Dumbledore might also be considering the fact that Snape is still a Death Eater but he continually denies the possiblity and at a terrible price... ~_~
Snape stunning Flitwick: Snape did not killed Flitwick because Hermione's group is just outside the office
( kagemaro )


• I think Snape may well still be on the side of good. The only reason he killed Dumbledore (Who i believe is truly dead) is because he had the Unbreakable Vow with Narcissa Malfoy. Note that he was a little hesitant when making the Vow. He knew he had to make it or Narcissa and Bella would either kill him the and there or report him to the Dark Lord, who would kill him. So, why not kill himself and save dumbledore? i hear you ask. As a former Death Eater, couldn't he have a residual fear of death?.
( tenten )


• well personally i think snape is on our side for good reasons. Dumbledore must have known that snape made the unbreakable vow and that if he didnt help malfoy to finish his job(in other words kill dumbledore) then he would have broken the vow and died as ron said. Dumbledore knew we was weak from the potion. He knew that the only that snape would not be suspected as a double agent was if he killed dumbledore and didnt hold back. But the main factor to why I think snape is good is that Dumbledore is not the kid of wizard who would pleed for him life even on the verge of death yet when he saw snape he pleeded. Dumbledore would take death like a man and would not wimper about it. I think he was pleeding for snape to kill him and to not blow his cover just to save dumbledore's life. I think that snape understood why he was pleeding and killed him not out of choice but out of loyalty to dumbledore. So if you piece it all together and really read between the line you realize that snape killed dumbledore because he was ordered to and is still on our side.
( manny prince )


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